Karate Educates Pimp; Don’t Hit Girls!

Posted by: John W. Zimmer
Under: karate
23 Nov 2008

18 Responses to “Karate Educates Pimp; Don’t Hit Girls!”

  1. Sly Says:

    That was pretty darn funny seeing that big tough pimp go down in a matter of a second or two. Education is a good thing and Jay Lee is a great teacher, heehee…

    I’m sure the pimp will think twice before picking a fight with a stranger in the future.

  2. Amanda Says:

    I love it!! Some men deserve to be humiliated, I doubt this dude will ever learn, but at least he will think twice next time!!

  3. John W. Zimmer Says:

    Hey Sly – it sure did not take much to put the pimp down. Anger does not equate to fighting ability. :)
    Hey Amanda – One can hope!

  4. Words Twice Says:

    “The guy had a poor education, maybe no father figure to teach him how to treat women.”

    He is a PIMP for crying out loud.

    “Girls and women are boys and men’s partners in life and should be respected. If a girl mis-steps and strikes a boy – two wrongs do not make a right!!! Men should not ever hit women!”

    Respect is earned. Hitting people and then hiding behind daddy is not the way to earn respect.

  5. John W. Zimmer Says:

    Hey Words Twice,
    I expect the best from people and then deal with the reality. The pimp’s reality is not mine so I don’t give him a free pass, and I am still surprised at how he treats women. I was surprised at the gall of the pimp to confront Jay Lee… like he had a right to do anything in the world.
    Interesting comment about respect, I think both the girl and I learned a lesson that day. My lesson was how to treat women even if they don’t act like a woman and the girl’s lesson was that she should treat men as she would want to be treated.
    As far as respect being earned… What? Taking it to the absurd… it is ok to act any way you want so long as you don’t respect the other person? What about if the other person really is a jerk… is it really ok to treat him badly?
    I don’t think so… respect as defined as civility does not have to be earned in my book. Now I have seen a lot of people behaving badly and have dealt with them – my point was and is that it shouldn’t outta be that way.
    Had the girl not told her father about the incident – I might have gone on thinking it was ok to hit women in anger… I am glad I was punished and I think it is the right thing to discipline your children as needed. I’m probably out of sync with the “time out” crowd but it works.
    Thanks for your comment.

  6. Steve Doss Says:

    I know this video has been shown countless times on television and on the Internet, but here is the details of the encounter.

    Jay Lee hit him with a reverse palm strike to the Dae Poh pressure point on the side of his neck. He is an old friend and instructor, and he told me this about a week after it happened. He was in the middle of shooting a Defensive Tactics and martial arts training video in an office building across the street. They heard a commotion across the street and he went down to the street to help and the videographer pointed his camera out the window.

    The pimp definitely was in the wrong place at the wrong time!

  7. John W. Zimmer Says:

    Thanks for the info Steve. Well executed by Jay Lee.

  8. Tommy Says:

    What kind of strike was that?

  9. Dave Says:

    Dr. Jay Lee was my instructor at Stephen F. Austin State University (SFA) and trained the Houston PD and now trains the US Military. What Spike TV got incorrect was that the shrug Dr. Lee after the confrontation was over wasn’t to the camera man it was to his buddy who was also upstairs, but instead of a camera he was armed with a tactical weapon.

  10. John W. Zimmer Says:

    Hi Dave, Thanks for the clarification – I really enjoyed this clip. It reminded me of what I used to call beer muscle. Some guys would act up in the bar I used to work at and then (due to the beer making them brave) cause trouble – I would attempt to talk them out and then when I had to to throw them out – they would all of a sudden start crying when I hit them (after they tried to throw the first punches).
    It is amazing the change – from bad to meek in just a few seconds.

  11. Eli Says:

    This guy (black) is drunk. It’s easy to hit in a drunk man.

  12. John W. Zimmer Says:

    Hi Eli, You are right; he is drunk or drugged up. Not sure what you point is. I used to encounter people like this in the bar I worked in… They would get drunk and think they were bad. They only ended up making a fool of themselves.

  13. Dr. Lockhart, Sr. Says:

    It is good to see that our Martial Arts is being represented in a positive manner and technique fashion. This is a prime example of the creation of Martial Arts being used for the good of the people for which it was created and intended. It’s refreshing to see justice being served at its elementary level without overkill. Talk about KARMA :)

  14. John W. Zimmer Says:

    Hi Dr. Lockhart,

    I totally agree with keeping karate as it was intended. It is kind of a responsibility to accent the positive while planning to handle the worst of humanity. I check out your school website – it looks will put together with programs that make sense.
    The pimp was finished before he got started in this… Karma is a good description!

  15. Marc G. Says:


    I like that in your original post you mentioned that the “biker chicks” you tried to help outside your studio would often end up cussing you out for your good efforts on their behalf. It is an important point to note that while we might think we are helping and have the best intentions…if our help is not wanted, then it is probably inappropriate to get involved. A lot of people have been hurt that way. Trying to help the “damselle in distress” and ending up fighting her as well as her attacker (if he was her boyfriend/husband for instance). This is an important part of OUR education as an “urban warrior” type. And, it is better to get it now than in the street like out pimp friend in the video.
    .-= Marc G.´s last blog ..The True Kata Applications…Part 2 =-.

  16. Whiskeyflips Says:

    AS you might expect, this video is on YouTube, and some of the dolts on there are actually taking the pimp’s side! (People, after all, can be morons.)

    A few are even saying that the pimp then sued Jay Lee and WON! Please tell me this isn’t true. Happily I’ve found nothing on the net referring to any lawsuit when I googled Jay Lee.

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  18. Austin Karate Says:

    Wow, that guy got it. Bad timing for him!