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	<title>Comments on: Martial Arts Contact Rules; Are you a Macho Man?</title>
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		<title>By: Joe Mack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Mack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 18:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sparring is a good practice technique. I just don&#039;t think that will help in a real scenario. Sparring is planned a real attack is not. Check out http://selfdefensefacts.com great way to learn self defense</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sparring is a good practice technique. I just don&#8217;t think that will help in a real scenario. Sparring is planned a real attack is not. Check out <a href="http://selfdefensefacts.com" rel="nofollow">http://selfdefensefacts.com</a> great way to learn self defense<br />
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		<title>By: pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 06:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have fought hard and soft.  You do have to play both ways to get a feel of reality.  
The problem comes when you start smacking so hard that you teach someone not to come in on you.  Hit them and they will learn. 
 
Will they learn to hit back better?  

Sometimes and sometimes they become more passive.  So, we create a problem by hitting too hard or too soft,students don&#039;t learn the real feel of contact.  Tough choices.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have fought hard and soft.  You do have to play both ways to get a feel of reality.<br />
The problem comes when you start smacking so hard that you teach someone not to come in on you.  Hit them and they will learn. </p>
<p>Will they learn to hit back better?  </p>
<p>Sometimes and sometimes they become more passive.  So, we create a problem by hitting too hard or too soft,students don&#8217;t learn the real feel of contact.  Tough choices.<br />
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		<title>By: Neal Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neal Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Continuous fighting is different in that the fight isn&#039;t stopped every time a point is scored. The judges have counters in hand and just clock up the points as they go along. It&#039;s basically like full contact, only you also have light contact, which is virtually no contact but  it never works out that way. You always end up going hard anyway, though not as all out as full contact. Sound confusing? It usually is. The rules in these things change all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Continuous fighting is different in that the fight isn&#8217;t stopped every time a point is scored. The judges have counters in hand and just clock up the points as they go along. It&#8217;s basically like full contact, only you also have light contact, which is virtually no contact but  it never works out that way. You always end up going hard anyway, though not as all out as full contact. Sound confusing? It usually is. The rules in these things change all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: John W. Zimmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>John W. Zimmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Neil, I think it is a matter of perspective. The reason real fights equated to regular sparring or point matches for me was I am an outside fighter (unless I am on the blitz). 

All I do is watch my distance and attack at (hopefully) an opportune minute. The pace is different as you say in a real fight but that does not change my strategy - just speeds it up a bit. I&#039;ve ended most of my fights with a well timed counter punch.

Continuous sparring was not around in my time but it was how one sparred in the school. The only time we practiced point fighting was right before a tournament. Perhaps you can clarify a question I have about continuous fighting.

The matches I&#039;ve seen on youtube - the judges stopped the action to score points. If that is the case - how is it different than point fighting? I would have though the action would not stop and the judges would just score points like a full contact match or boxing (10 point must).

Anyway in the school one has to fight their way out of a situation much like one would have to on the street (but not at the same pace).

For me posting the video was kind of like looking at a time warp... I&#039;m 52 and that was when I was in my late teens to early 20&#039;s. 

I used to want the win or I also had not problem with disqualification if I lost. Not sure about the knee strike but one of my favorite &quot;tricks&quot; was to miss with my side kick to the body and &quot;accidentally&quot; hit the thigh! I would usually employ that if nothing else was working for me that day. I reasoned if the guy could not lift his leg - I&#039;d have a chance. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Neil, I think it is a matter of perspective. The reason real fights equated to regular sparring or point matches for me was I am an outside fighter (unless I am on the blitz). </p>
<p>All I do is watch my distance and attack at (hopefully) an opportune minute. The pace is different as you say in a real fight but that does not change my strategy &#8211; just speeds it up a bit. I&#8217;ve ended most of my fights with a well timed counter punch.</p>
<p>Continuous sparring was not around in my time but it was how one sparred in the school. The only time we practiced point fighting was right before a tournament. Perhaps you can clarify a question I have about continuous fighting.</p>
<p>The matches I&#8217;ve seen on youtube &#8211; the judges stopped the action to score points. If that is the case &#8211; how is it different than point fighting? I would have though the action would not stop and the judges would just score points like a full contact match or boxing (10 point must).</p>
<p>Anyway in the school one has to fight their way out of a situation much like one would have to on the street (but not at the same pace).</p>
<p>For me posting the video was kind of like looking at a time warp&#8230; I&#8217;m 52 and that was when I was in my late teens to early 20&#8217;s. </p>
<p>I used to want the win or I also had not problem with disqualification if I lost. Not sure about the knee strike but one of my favorite &#8220;tricks&#8221; was to miss with my side kick to the body and &#8220;accidentally&#8221; hit the thigh! I would usually employ that if nothing else was working for me that day. I reasoned if the guy could not lift his leg &#8211; I&#8217;d have a chance. <img src='http://myselfdefenseblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Neal Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neal Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s as you say, John, your own best interest should be your primary concern. I spar all the time and I like to go a little hard occassionally because I think it helps to be abl to take a hit (and also give it). It&#039;s practice though, so I don&#039;t see the point of injuring someone. There is no need for that and if you do it&#039;s usually because your ego got in the way (i.e. you were showing off).

In terms of self defense, I have found real fighting to be much different from sparring in the dojo. I have used the odd move from sparring in the past but usually you don&#039;t get a chance to react like that because real fights are so fast and furious. I also don&#039;t think sparring really prepares you very well for real fighting. The two are just so different. You closest you will get to such practice is something like Animal Day, were you just go all out, no holds barred, but that&#039;s more about creating pressure and seeing how you react under it.

Dojo sparring is mainly about technique and I think the contact should be light to moderate. If you are fully geared up then you can go that bit harder. I just don&#039;t see the point in needless injury through heavy contact. Anyone I&#039;ve sparred who has hit hard have been arrogant assholes out to prove something. Good post and I enjoyed watching your fight. Good technique on display. Not my style of fighting though, never been keen on semi-contact. I prefer continuous fighting. I have a recent video of myself fighting but I don&#039;t know whether to post it or not because I got disqualified for using a knee strike. It was pretty dirty, I have to admit. I might post it anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s as you say, John, your own best interest should be your primary concern. I spar all the time and I like to go a little hard occassionally because I think it helps to be abl to take a hit (and also give it). It&#8217;s practice though, so I don&#8217;t see the point of injuring someone. There is no need for that and if you do it&#8217;s usually because your ego got in the way (i.e. you were showing off).</p>
<p>In terms of self defense, I have found real fighting to be much different from sparring in the dojo. I have used the odd move from sparring in the past but usually you don&#8217;t get a chance to react like that because real fights are so fast and furious. I also don&#8217;t think sparring really prepares you very well for real fighting. The two are just so different. You closest you will get to such practice is something like Animal Day, were you just go all out, no holds barred, but that&#8217;s more about creating pressure and seeing how you react under it.</p>
<p>Dojo sparring is mainly about technique and I think the contact should be light to moderate. If you are fully geared up then you can go that bit harder. I just don&#8217;t see the point in needless injury through heavy contact. Anyone I&#8217;ve sparred who has hit hard have been arrogant assholes out to prove something. Good post and I enjoyed watching your fight. Good technique on display. Not my style of fighting though, never been keen on semi-contact. I prefer continuous fighting. I have a recent video of myself fighting but I don&#8217;t know whether to post it or not because I got disqualified for using a knee strike. It was pretty dirty, I have to admit. I might post it anyway.</p>
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