Under: karate
21 Dec 2012

9 Responses to “McDojo? Is Karate Quality basied on Lineage”

  1. Dr. J Says:

    As the Catholic priest said to the Protestant minister, “We both teach the word of God, you in your way, I in His.” :-)

    I suppose the bottom line in all this may be, is the instructor schooled well enough to bring out the best in the student regardless of the teachers fighting ability. Certainly with traditional boxing instruction, the teachers were usually well past their fighting prime.

    I will admit, however, that most of the instructors I’ve had were quite capable fighters, and I’m glad it turned out that way.
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  2. John W. Zimmer Says:

    Always the instigator Dr. J! :)

    I am not so focused on an instructor’s fighting ability as I am that they can teach good fighting.

    In the 80’s there were lots of schools that did not teach students to cover their ribs. When they came to my school I’d simply throw an inverted lunge punch or side kick to expose their opening.

    I’d point out their mistakes and mostly – they did not want to admit or change what they were taught before.

    The bad thing is they thought they could fight there way out of a paper bag and sadly… in many cases the paper bag would have won. :)

  3. Dr. J Says:


    I think I was probably lucky to have so little fighting experience when I began my martial arts training because I didn’t have any habits, good or bad to have to change.

    I really liked using that inverted lunge punch as you described. There was one time, however, when I used it three times in a row against an experienced fighter. I hit him easily the first two times, and like that old WW1 story of “three on a match,” where the third guy in the trenches gets shot lighting his cigarette, he broke my cheekbone on my third attack! The problem was not with the technique :-)
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  4. MattKlein Says:

    Hi John, I agree with most of what you say, with one exception. When it comes to children, building up their self-confidence and self-esteem takes precedence over creating good fighters. You must build them up before you can make them a “fighting machine”. You will lose most of them if you try to do it the other way around.
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  5. John W. Zimmer Says:

    Hey Dr. J!

    Great story – I too have learned the hard way that too much of a good move can be bad!

    Hey Matt!

    I defer to your expertise with children Matt. I was an almost adult when I started with Tracy’s Karate – so the self confidence did not mean much – only if it worked. :)

  6. MattKlein Says:

    You probably had a bit of cockiness….sorry, self-confidence going into it John, so in your case, it did not matter. But there were probably many, in fact thousands of others that never dared to walk into a martial arts training hall, because of fear and lack of confidence. We are trying to change that. But if they stay with it long enough, bullies will avoid them like the plague, as they will become formidable fighters. Agree with you that sparring is a necessity!
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  7. David Hays Says:


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  8. Kevin Says:

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  9. MattKlein Says:

    Hi Dave, hope I was able to help, like your website. Everyone, check it out at http://hayskenpokarate.com/.
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