Under: martial arts
31 Oct 2009

14 Responses to “Tricking, XMA & Martial Arts Stunts for Fun and Fitness!”

  1. Lisa Graf Says:

    Great Post! Thanks for the info. Graf’s ATA Martial Arts
    .-= Lisa Graf´s last blog ..Dr. Oz Learns Taekwondo! =-.

  2. SueC Says:

    I think there is a place for showmanship and performance in martial arts. It’s generally entertaining, exciting and inspiring to watch someone test out the limits of the human body. I love Jackie Chan films!

  3. TheMartialArtsReporter Says:

    Getting and keeping people in the dojo is a good thing,
    I totally agree.
    Jackie Chan has certainly helped doing just that by raising the bar of performance and stunts throughout the years.
    Another guy who surprised me as a stunt coordinator is famous kata performer, Jean Frenette.
    Sorry, I’m getting carried away (again).
    Always enjoy your posts.

  4. John W. Zimmer Says:

    Hi Lisa, Yes this was some fun stuff… I checked out the kid on Dr. Oz and he was impressive.
    Hi Sue! I feel that way too… “watch someone test out the limits…” so long as it is not me! :)
    Hey The Martial Arts Reporter – I liked your Jackie Chan post too!

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  6. john Says:

    Years ago when Mike Chatt first started XMA I trained with him at a seminar. We had about 40 people in the class and they showed us a few moves. FYI- he wasn’t selling XMA as a new and improved fighting art. If I recall, he was pretty upfront that it was more about performance and testing your limits rather than some superior way of fighting.

    You sound a little put off by it?? Me? If I could do it I would but I don’t have much desire for the high flying stunts.

    Mike Chatt is a real nice dude.

  7. John W. Zimmer Says:

    Hi John, Thanks for the information on Mike Chatt. I think martial arts are mostly for self-defense but do see other valid and interesting applications.

    Whenever I see a kata champion or other stuff for show I just worrie a little that average folk might not realize it for what it is. I have the same opion of flying kicks in kumite or other moves that would not work in a real fight. I tried to give a balanced view of this and I really like good stunts in movies.

    I have nothing against Mike or anyone else in XMA, Tricking or movie stunts.

    Have a good Thanksgiving John.

  8. pat Says:

    Things have gone to the flying unrealistic moves for showmanship in the last 15 years or so. It is fun to watch but it gets away from what we are really trying to accomplish.

    Get the job done fast, no messing around. I have never thought of flipping and doing anything fancy when defending myself. Who would?
    .-= pat´s last blog ..Karate Belt Display updated Sun Mar 7 2010 6:29 pm CST =-.

  9. Matt Klein Says:

    True that the high flying stunt would not work too well in a street fight. But what I like about a acrobatic moves is the explosive power that they build. A bit like plyometrics, which the Russians used to dominate the Olympics before everyone else caught on. I also feel they create more interest in the martial arts and help fill the seats in tournaments. Think Power Rangers for kids.

  10. Chris Says:

    “Anything that gets students into the dojo’s, wanting to be the next Bruce Lee or Jackie Chan is good in my book.”

    Actually, I’ve had people come into Wing Chun class wanting to become the next Jackie Chan, and when they left immediately upon realizing it wouldn’t happen, it only made the instructor look bad.

    I am speaking as a huge Jackie Chan fan, but I don’t care to have people enroll based on false pretenses, nor to add acrobatics to a martial art that doesn’t benefit from their presence.
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  11. Matt Klein Says:

    Fair enough Chris, agreed that you don’t want people there for the wrong reasons. However, look at how many different reasons we have for doing the martial arts; fitness, self defense, social belonging, mma, etc. They are all looking for different things and you can’t please everyone.

    Don’t see how it makes the instructor look bad as it is not his/her problem if people don’t get what they want out of it. It is their problem if they have preconceived notions. Maybe they should have done their research better as Wing Chun is not known for its flashy kicks, unlike Wushu.
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  12. Chris Says:

    Matt, in this particular case, the instructor had to answer to the university activities director, who noticed the immediate dropouts and assumed the class was inappropriate and/or poorly run (and should be canceled at the end of the quarter).
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  13. Matt Klein Says:

    Chris, I am sorry to hear that. It is always a tragedy to shut down a school, because many people are committed to training there. Perhaps a better description in the school catalogue could have avoided this situation. Even as a school owner I have to answer to my customers, who vote with their dollars.

  14. Martial Arts Liniment Says:

    My school does XMA. It’s cool, but it’s a show to get people to come to the school. It’s cool when they put it in movies though… pretty flash for the modern movies where modern martial arts are becoming boring to watch for normal people.