Comments on: Groin Kicks – Will you use them in a fight? /groin-kicks-will-you-use-them-in-a-fight/ Reviews of common self-defense, karate, and MMA issues Mon, 27 May 2013 19:53:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Corey /groin-kicks-will-you-use-them-in-a-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-8446 Corey Fri, 28 Dec 2012 04:35:33 +0000 /?p=3305#comment-8446 Hey great site here been reading for over an hour on all your steps and posts. selfdefenseaid. com Hey great site here been reading for over an hour on all your steps and posts.
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By: John W. Zimmer /groin-kicks-will-you-use-them-in-a-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-8257 John W. Zimmer Fri, 30 Nov 2012 03:53:25 +0000 /?p=3305#comment-8257 Hey Zara! You make some excellent points. One I'd like to echo is that speed is more important that power. When I used to fight point karate - the rules were kiss contact to the head and full contact to the body. Since everyone else was focused on the head shots - I found it easy to stop opponents with a good body punch. Relaxing, pivoting and follow though the target (without fear of disqualification was one of my signature moves)... People that did not understand the power of a quick flip kick or counter punch - were easy targets and even easier in a real fight (where beer muscle is your chief opponent). Hey Richelieu, Great point about attackers deserving anything they get. While I try to respond in kind - especially living in California where the law uses a "reasonable man" standard, I good groin kick only takes one. Hey Zara! You make some excellent points. One I’d like to echo is that speed is more important that power. When I used to fight point karate – the rules were kiss contact to the head and full contact to the body. Since everyone else was focused on the head shots – I found it easy to stop opponents with a good body punch. Relaxing, pivoting and follow though the target (without fear of disqualification was one of my signature moves)…

People that did not understand the power of a quick flip kick or counter punch – were easy targets and even easier in a real fight (where beer muscle is your chief opponent).

Hey Richelieu, Great point about attackers deserving anything they get. While I try to respond in kind – especially living in California where the law uses a “reasonable man” standard, I good groin kick only takes one.

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By: Richelieu Williams /groin-kicks-will-you-use-them-in-a-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-8256 Richelieu Williams Wed, 28 Nov 2012 00:26:55 +0000 /?p=3305#comment-8256 Years ago I took a break from a house party and went out to my car to get more beer. I ran into a little hottie and started up a conversation. As I walked her back inside her man came flying out of the house at me. To make a long story short, I proceeded to tatter his face with punch after punch. I was pretty skinny back then so I couldn't knock him out. He got tired of me embarrassing him with my barrage of jabs to the grill. He decided to charge me and try to take me down. I was so tired of fighting by then. I knew I didn't want to wrestle this guy. The only thing I could think of while he was coming at me was planting my foot in his nutsack. I was successful. Needless to say he went down like a ton of bricks. If I had to do it all over again the only thing I would have done different is kick him harder. So dont feel bad about kickin your buddy. Anyone who engages in a fight deserves anything they get. Years ago I took a break from a house party and went out to my car to get more beer. I ran into a little hottie and started up a conversation. As I walked her back inside her man came flying out of the house at me.
To make a long story short, I proceeded to tatter his face with punch after punch. I was pretty skinny back then so I couldn’t knock him out. He got tired of me embarrassing him with my barrage of jabs to the grill. He decided to charge me and try to take me down.
I was so tired of fighting by then. I knew I didn’t want to wrestle this guy. The only thing I could think of while he was coming at me was planting my foot in his nutsack. I was successful.
Needless to say he went down like a ton of bricks. If I had to do it all over again the only thing I would have done different is kick him harder. So dont feel bad about kickin your buddy. Anyone who engages in a fight deserves anything they get.

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By: Zara /groin-kicks-will-you-use-them-in-a-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-8255 Zara Sun, 18 Nov 2012 21:16:32 +0000 /?p=3305#comment-8255 I only train for self-defense so we generally only kick low: the prime targets are the shin (not in itself a fight ender but great at creating openings), the knee (devestating), the tigh and the groin. The groin kick is quick, safe, fast and fairly difficult to block (especially if you're in the wrong stance). At the very least kicking him low will provide an opening for strikes to the head so in my opinion the most effective strategy in a fight would be to strike high and kick low and vice versa. As soon as you get a hit in I'd clinch and employ knees, elbows and grappling techniques like quick takedowns. I believe if you're facing a trained fighter (especially the sports variant) your best bet would be to kick his groin or knee since most people simply don't train to defend against those attacks. For SD attacks to the groin (kicks, slaps, knees) are of prime importance in reducing differences in height, weight and strength: kick a man in the groin and he'll naturally bend forward providing you with the perfect opportunity to knock him out and muscles or training don't matter when you get them good. On the attack the groinkick pretty much functions the same way as a jab: as an opener and a feeler, with the exception that a good kick to the nuts can actually stop a fight completely. As to the practical aspects of it: obviously groinkicking isn't very difficult but most people tend to forget that speed is more important than power so winding up is a bad idea. Just be quick and nimble and always kick with the front foot for maximum surprise effect. It's possible to spar using groinkicks but caution should be taken given the extreme vulnerability of the area and the fact that cups only lessen the blow they don't stop it. For those of us who still want children someday: it's better to be safe than sorry. I only train for self-defense so we generally only kick low: the prime targets are the shin (not in itself a fight ender but great at creating openings), the knee (devestating), the tigh and the groin. The groin kick is quick, safe, fast and fairly difficult to block (especially if you’re in the wrong stance). At the very least kicking him low will provide an opening for strikes to the head so in my opinion the most effective strategy in a fight would be to strike high and kick low and vice versa. As soon as you get a hit in I’d clinch and employ knees, elbows and grappling techniques like quick takedowns. I believe if you’re facing a trained fighter (especially the sports variant) your best bet would be to kick his groin or knee since most people simply don’t train to defend against those attacks. For SD attacks to the groin (kicks, slaps, knees) are of prime importance in reducing differences in height, weight and strength: kick a man in the groin and he’ll naturally bend forward providing you with the perfect opportunity to knock him out and muscles or training don’t matter when you get them good. On the attack the groinkick pretty much functions the same way as a jab: as an opener and a feeler, with the exception that a good kick to the nuts can actually stop a fight completely.

As to the practical aspects of it: obviously groinkicking isn’t very difficult but most people tend to forget that speed is more important than power so winding up is a bad idea. Just be quick and nimble and always kick with the front foot for maximum surprise effect. It’s possible to spar using groinkicks but caution should be taken given the extreme vulnerability of the area and the fact that cups only lessen the blow they don’t stop it. For those of us who still want children someday: it’s better to be safe than sorry.

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By: David hays /groin-kicks-will-you-use-them-in-a-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-8228 David hays Tue, 23 Oct 2012 23:08:00 +0000 /?p=3305#comment-8228 Thanks John, For those who read this blog I want to tell you all that John Zimmer was pound per pound one of the best and most effective fighters I ever had the pleasure to work with. He was fast and hit hard. Work-outs with John always improved my skills. He was the first of five fighters I had to fight as part of my 1st Degree Black Belt test. John and I had worked out and been friends for years at the time so I was expecting my good buddy to cut me some slack. WRONG! He made me earn the belt and I thank him for that. Thanks John,
For those who read this blog I want to tell you all that John Zimmer was pound per pound one of the best and most effective fighters I ever had the pleasure to work with. He was fast and hit hard. Work-outs with John always improved my skills. He was the first of five fighters I had to fight as part of my 1st Degree Black Belt test. John and I had worked out and been friends for years at the time so I was expecting my good buddy to cut me some slack. WRONG! He made me earn the belt and I thank him for that.

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By: John W. Zimmer /groin-kicks-will-you-use-them-in-a-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-8206 John W. Zimmer Wed, 17 Oct 2012 05:34:35 +0000 /?p=3305#comment-8206 Hey Dave! Boy do I remember your combos... and yes you do believe in groin kicks! :) For those who have never seen us fight - Dave and I were equal opportunity strikers... it did not matter what kick or punch or angle we would attack from - just that we attacked. And Dave (like me) was good at connecting with whatever one was open for (groin - bread basket - face) - with either hand or foot - it did not matter. So many guys have a favorite technique but Dave had all of the tools - you could not relax one bit. Hey Dave! Boy do I remember your combos… and yes you do believe in groin kicks! :)

For those who have never seen us fight – Dave and I were equal opportunity strikers… it did not matter what kick or punch or angle we would attack from – just that we attacked.

And Dave (like me) was good at connecting with whatever one was open for (groin – bread basket – face) – with either hand or foot – it did not matter.

So many guys have a favorite technique but Dave had all of the tools – you could not relax one bit.

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By: David Hays /groin-kicks-will-you-use-them-in-a-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-8202 David Hays Tue, 16 Oct 2012 23:02:41 +0000 /?p=3305#comment-8202 I say YES to the kicks to the groin. It makes them drop their hand just enough to use a jab (back-fist) and sets up so many other techniques. As stated above it keeps those high kickers honest I say YES to the kicks to the groin. It makes them drop their hand just enough to use a jab (back-fist) and sets up so many other techniques. As stated above it keeps those high kickers honest

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