Comments on: How Long Should a Real Fight Last? /how-long-should-a-real-fight-last/ Reviews of common self-defense, karate, and MMA issues Mon, 14 May 2012 13:10:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: John W. Zimmer /how-long-should-a-real-fight-last/comment-page-1/#comment-7660 John W. Zimmer Tue, 08 May 2012 04:39:48 +0000 /?p=3263#comment-7660 Thanks WingChunBear, Self-defence Manchester & Kenneth! Neal Martin! Long time no see. I remember you mentioning that fight between friends... always a tough situation to be in. :) I put in a link to your new blog. Cheers! Thanks WingChunBear, Self-defence Manchester & Kenneth!

Neal Martin! Long time no see. I remember you mentioning that fight between friends… always a tough situation to be in. :)

I put in a link to your new blog. Cheers!

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By: Neal Martin /how-long-should-a-real-fight-last/comment-page-1/#comment-7636 Neal Martin Tue, 01 May 2012 16:11:27 +0000 /?p=3263#comment-7636 Most fights I've seen or been in have lasted just seconds. However I once spent over an hour involved in a fight with two other guys. I was trying to break them up and I got dragged into it. Because I knew them well, I refrained from striking them and used restraints instead. They just kept going at each other. When it was all over I wished I'd just choked one or both of them out. Lesson learned I suppose! Hi John, by the way. Been a while! Most fights I’ve seen or been in have lasted just seconds. However I once spent over an hour involved in a fight with two other guys. I was trying to break them up and I got dragged into it. Because I knew them well, I refrained from striking them and used restraints instead. They just kept going at each other. When it was all over I wished I’d just choked one or both of them out. Lesson learned I suppose!

Hi John, by the way. Been a while!
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By: Kenneth /how-long-should-a-real-fight-last/comment-page-1/#comment-7584 Kenneth Tue, 10 Apr 2012 15:46:47 +0000 /?p=3263#comment-7584 Professional fighters last longer due to their physical conditioning. A fight would take longer if both fighters are equally matched as well. 5 minutes is already very long and it will leave even strong and skillful fighters exhausted. Professional fighters last longer due to their physical conditioning. A fight would take longer if both fighters are equally matched as well. 5 minutes is already very long and it will leave even strong and skillful fighters exhausted.
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By: Self defence Manchester /how-long-should-a-real-fight-last/comment-page-1/#comment-7581 Self defence Manchester Tue, 10 Apr 2012 11:34:24 +0000 /?p=3263#comment-7581 A fight tends to last longer due to the rules and regulations in place. It also depends on the abilities of the people fighting. A fight tends to last longer due to the rules and regulations in place. It also depends on the abilities of the people fighting.
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By: WingChunBear /how-long-should-a-real-fight-last/comment-page-1/#comment-7567 WingChunBear Sun, 08 Apr 2012 01:35:29 +0000 /?p=3263#comment-7567 An unexpected outburst of a fight tend to last 2 - 5 minutes. Should an aggressor use element of surprise for attacks it usually only a few seconds that either the prey fights back proficiently or the prey immediately surrenders over knife points. To me i believe to overcome the fear and willingness to hurt that other person would end fights in a few seconds with 1 or 2 solid hits. Even if its untrained people flailing their arms around. True intention to hurt the other person trumps in any situation...i believe atleast An unexpected outburst of a fight tend to last 2 – 5 minutes. Should an aggressor use element of surprise for attacks it usually only a few seconds that either the prey fights back proficiently or the prey immediately surrenders over knife points.

To me i believe to overcome the fear and willingness to hurt that other person would end fights in a few seconds with 1 or 2 solid hits. Even if its untrained people flailing their arms around. True intention to hurt the other person trumps in any situation…i believe atleast
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By: Zara /how-long-should-a-real-fight-last/comment-page-1/#comment-7538 Zara Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:35:46 +0000 /?p=3263#comment-7538 @John: fighting a trained fighter (whether it'd be in the dojo or elsewhere) is indeed no easy feat and most likely far more trouble than your average joe taking a swing at you or even some thug having a go at you. Sparring and live exercises are indeed the best preparation for a real fight and if you're at that you probably won't have a problem doing it for real. I'll admit I still have alot to learn on that front but I know it takes time and practice to get really good and everytime you learn something more about fighting and yourself. What we're working on now in the dojo is exercises leading up to sparring: one guy attacks using only straight punches, the other party defends. I don't know how you were taugth exactly but for most people sparring is a trying exercise and should be worked up to through in stages. No one who'd learn to swim is thrown right into the deep end of the pool, at least I hope so ;). @John: fighting a trained fighter (whether it’d be in the dojo or elsewhere) is indeed no easy feat and most likely far more trouble than your average joe taking a swing at you or even some thug having a go at you. Sparring and live exercises are indeed the best preparation for a real fight and if you’re at that you probably won’t have a problem doing it for real. I’ll admit I still have alot to learn on that front but I know it takes time and practice to get really good and everytime you learn something more about fighting and yourself.

What we’re working on now in the dojo is exercises leading up to sparring: one guy attacks using only straight punches, the other party defends. I don’t know how you were taugth exactly but for most people sparring is a trying exercise and should be worked up to through in stages. No one who’d learn to swim is thrown right into the deep end of the pool, at least I hope so ;) .

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By: John W. Zimmer /how-long-should-a-real-fight-last/comment-page-1/#comment-7520 John W. Zimmer Thu, 29 Mar 2012 06:03:38 +0000 /?p=3263#comment-7520 Hi Matt - I always found it kind of funny that people in bars thought that increasing number of beers would improve fighting ability. Actually kind of sad. Any way - you said it well. Hi Charles, I know it sounds kind of like a saying but you truly win all fights in your mind first. When I was defending myself as a bouncer (I was not the kind looking for fights as I weight 175 pounds at the time) - I had the advantage of being young and hungry. I was competing at point karate and initially working up to my black belt. I was the definition of being a trained fighter at the time. I will say to fight a gang of overly exuberant youths would be challenging for me in my 50's. I would still plan on winning but I would take some hits. Back in my 20's - I was good at striking without getting hit back in real fights. Normally I did not fight anyone that could fight - only those that thought they could (sometimes influenced by what I called beer muscle). Hi Zara, I get your point and can only say the way I was trained - fighting in the bar seemed easy compared to fighting in the school. We used to have Tuesday and Thursday evening sparring class. Tuesday's were the easier of the nights. At the time I had lost my job as a brown belt and I was living in my instructor's studio. I was living and breathing karate. Thursday nights were the trying nights as I would spar with Lap Napolean, Terry Crook and John West. I weighed about 165-175 out of high-school. These guys were taller, heavier, experienced black belts at the top of their game. My normal method was to try to survive with my instructor's watchful eye to give me pointers of how to mitigate some of my strategy the next day. After I kept sparring Thursday nights - the animals started to give me pointers too. After a couple of years I could hang with them and started coming into my own. So for me - real fights were nothing. I seldom even fought someone challenging for real. The hardest fights I had were not the mass attacks (I was in good shape so I could single them out and weed them out) but actually athletes of other disciplines. I fought a wrestler once that luckily I did not go to the ground. Another fight was for fun. A boxer and I talked fighting the whole night and after the bar let out - we fought in the parking lot for fun. He was challenging but I was able to through a couple of back-knuckles and on the third one - I faked the back-knuckle and pivoted into a shuffle rear kick and landed him on his butt! :) So to your point - I think one has to have a hunger to succeed and become good at fighting strategy to overcome inertia or fear. Thanks for your thoughtful comment Zara. Hi Matt – I always found it kind of funny that people in bars thought that increasing number of beers would improve fighting ability. Actually kind of sad. Any way – you said it well.

Hi Charles, I know it sounds kind of like a saying but you truly win all fights in your mind first. When I was defending myself as a bouncer (I was not the kind looking for fights as I weight 175 pounds at the time) – I had the advantage of being young and hungry. I was competing at point karate and initially working up to my black belt. I was the definition of being a trained fighter at the time.

I will say to fight a gang of overly exuberant youths would be challenging for me in my 50′s. I would still plan on winning but I would take some hits. Back in my 20′s – I was good at striking without getting hit back in real fights. Normally I did not fight anyone that could fight – only those that thought they could (sometimes influenced by what I called beer muscle).

Hi Zara, I get your point and can only say the way I was trained – fighting in the bar seemed easy compared to fighting in the school. We used to have Tuesday and Thursday evening sparring class. Tuesday’s were the easier of the nights. At the time I had lost my job as a brown belt and I was living in my instructor’s studio. I was living and breathing karate.

Thursday nights were the trying nights as I would spar with Lap Napolean, Terry Crook and John West. I weighed about 165-175 out of high-school. These guys were taller, heavier, experienced black belts at the top of their game.

My normal method was to try to survive with my instructor’s watchful eye to give me pointers of how to mitigate some of my strategy the next day. After I kept sparring Thursday nights – the animals started to give me pointers too. After a couple of years I could hang with them and started coming into my own.

So for me – real fights were nothing. I seldom even fought someone challenging for real. The hardest fights I had were not the mass attacks (I was in good shape so I could single them out and weed them out) but actually athletes of other disciplines. I fought a wrestler once that luckily I did not go to the ground. Another fight was for fun. A boxer and I talked fighting the whole night and after the bar let out – we fought in the parking lot for fun. He was challenging but I was able to through a couple of back-knuckles and on the third one – I faked the back-knuckle and pivoted into a shuffle rear kick and landed him on his butt! :)

So to your point – I think one has to have a hunger to succeed and become good at fighting strategy to overcome inertia or fear.

Thanks for your thoughtful comment Zara.

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